more later, good game

I agree, let’s get back to policy. This started because I criticized David Brooks and you told me that America was conservative, and I had to get over it and stop being mad about it and give up my frustration that the country wasn’t the way I wanted it to be. And so I made the case that it wasn’t that clear cut that America was conservative, and pointed to polls that supported my position, and then you seemed to say, sorry JP’s polls are narrow, you should believe mine, America is conservative. I agree, it doesn’t matter, what matters is what to do and where to go from here. My whole point was that it isn’t a closed case–in fact there is plenty of counter-evidence–that America is a conservative country.
As far as being combative, consider this: Certainly OWS is combative. And, in the months before it started, a recent study reported on On the Media (which I previously referred to) showed that in the months before OWS began, jobs were hardly mentioned in the mainstream media, while the budget deficit was the lead story almost every night. OWS has made clear that jobs are and should be the main concern. And now the media is reporting much more on jobs than on the budget deficit. OWS has changed the conversation. And we’ve–I and you and a lot of people though certainly not the majority of the country–that the top one percent had as much as the bottom 90% of Americans in wealth and that in the last generation middle class wages have flat-lined while that of the top one percent have skyrocketed. But Brian Williams had never reported on that. It wasn’t part of the conversation on the network news. Now it is, and you’ll see that graph on even the corporate media outlets. And it is all because of OWS. People stood up and said we’ve had enough. Change the conversation. And to that extent, they have already won.
I’ll give you that being combative can go too far, and sometimes–I’d argue that OWS has shown–it is necessary.


About JP

We're two guys who met in college, in 1980. We've stayed in touch, and like to talk politics, current events, music and religion. JP is nore liberal than Sid, but not in every way. We figure that dialogue stimulates ideas, moderates perspective, and is in general friendly. These are things we need badly in these dangerous times. The blog name is taken from a song by Bruce Cockburn.
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