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Well, Jim, I guess we both have to look, cause we seem to be frustrating the heck out of each other. As I read your post it’s like you didn’t even read my post. I said nothing about supporting “whining,” nor is that what anyone at the protests are doing. I pointed to a great many specific things; many of the same things you present in your list. Why do you want the movement to have to be against someone or someones (you suggest Perry or Bachmann, and I say what is the point, they are fading on their own). You seem to want the whole thing to be somehow reduced to soundbites, and while I tried to explain why the movement didn’t need and shouldn’t have a specific list of demands yet, you didn’t try to answer any of the points I made about that. And if you really need the 30 second sound bite, I provided that too; we are the 99%, and we want our country back from the 1%. It’s pretty simple, and it all starts from that.
Chris Hedges has a great take on the whole thing here, with a great interview with one of the protesters that shows well they are thoughtful people with a lot of specific ideas and are still finding their way, and that they want everyone to have a voice and not to shut people out, which reducing themselves to a small list now would do. Read this if you think they are just whiners, and you’ll see that they aren’t, that the “whiner” meme is simply a creation of the corporate media that wants to discredit the movement. We have to listen to the people, not to what the corporate media says the people are saying or doing.
Your large paragraph that starts “Protect workers…” has much in common with what I quoted from Matt Rothschild in the Progressive. I’m not sure what more you want or why you think I’m not being specific.
And as for the tea party, yes it is hard to put together the list of things you say should be easy to put together about them. Yes, they hate taxes and government, but they don’t want to give up social security or medicare or any of the things government does. So how is that being specific or real or consistent? And why should the 99% movement want to be a mirror (or anti-mirror) of the tea party? They’re already fading, not getting people to rallies, scrambling to stay relevant (they could certainly rise again. I think their financiers are just biding their time for the moment). Why would a new movement want to emulate them in any way?

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We're two guys who met in college, in 1980. We've stayed in touch, and like to talk politics, current events, music and religion. JP is nore liberal than Sid, but not in every way. We figure that dialogue stimulates ideas, moderates perspective, and is in general friendly. These are things we need badly in these dangerous times. The blog name is taken from a song by Bruce Cockburn.
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